Once again social media has become dominated with political rants, debates, hatred, judgement, and ignorance (and ignoring). I fall into the last category there-- I am first ignorant of the "current affairs" going on around me in the political realm, and secondly, I just plain ignore (getting involved) in these "discussions" of what out world, ahem, social networking world, has become infiltrated with. Certainly not to undermine that this is indeed an issue in the world, and it is not something to overlook or turn a blind eye to. The world is changing. The world has always been changing.
This post arises from the latest social media trend of the red pictures. You may have seen them. Equal signs. Plus signs. A cross. Baby feet. They have come to replace the "face" of many by becoming profile pictures. No need for words to express where one stands on this issue.. just look for the red picture that is bound to be somewhere on their profile. Then there is instant judgment. "Ooooh, they believe t h a t way?!?!? I cannot possibly be friends with h e r (or) h i m!"
Now it is no secret that our society has this unspoken rule that if two people don't agree with each other, than the friendship cannot possibly exist; there is instant hatred. Perhaps they have tried to talk it out. Perhaps they have tried to persuade each other to "see the light." All these "fruitless attempts" and then, just like that, the friendship is ended. But we are all made unique and different. If we were all the same, the world would never advance--because everyone would be thinking on the same level. There would be no diversity among professions, dreams, goals, etc. We would all walk around in a stupor repeating what has already been said and thought up. It takes different minds, and yes, even disagreements, to make the world go 'round.
So, what is this controversy? What has taken over our social media and turned our attention away from love? This is centered around legalizing gay marriages and equality for all people-- no matter the sexual orientation.
That brings me to this: Why judge because their sin is different than mine? Yes, the Bible does clearly state in Leviticus 18:22: "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable." But it also says a multitude of other things: "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye" (Matthew 7:5). "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself'" (Luke 10:27). "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven" (Luke 6:37). That is just to name a few.
So while we are so busy here, pointing fingers, calling other out on their sins, have we forgotten that we too are sinners?? "There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus" (Romans).
This situation that has arisen, leaves us with ample opportunity to show Christ's love! To shower people with the blessings that God has given freely to US!!
What exactly does it look like to show Christ's love? That is something that I have often struggled with myself. When a situation arises that I have no idea how to deal in it, I just respectfully .. humbly.. or perhaps more like cowardly, bow out. I don't want to be uncomfortable. Almost like "I don't like the choices you are making, I won't get into an argument about it. So live your life how you want and I'll live how I want. The End. Good bye." Excuse me?!?! I don't think so! It has really been placed on my heart that this is something that I need to really rethink.
Perhaps I need a mentality more along these lines: Discussion should be had... take advantage of any opportunity to let my cup, that is filled with Christ, pour truth out into the lives of others. And
just because someone has a different world view than me, I still need to have the patience and love to listen and love. Not just that, but also take the time for them to pour out into my life as well! So we don't agree on some things, they still have wisdom to offer that I don't have. They have been though life experiences that I have not and can offer that to me. Because, again, we all sin and fall short of the glory of God. Not anyone is all bad.
Have you ever thought that maybe we judge others so harshly because we are judging ourselves? We have a subconscious (or in come cases, even conscious) moral standard, a set of values that we hold ourselves up to-- and then, not intentionally in most cases, try to push these off onto others claiming it is done in the Name of God? Let me ask this: When was the last time God got in your face and openly condemned you and called you out? He is so gentle. He stands there loving us in our sinfulness and brokenness. And we are called to bear HIS image! If He can do that for me, then by golly, I need to be able to do that for others.
So here we are with these posts going around online. People picking fights. People stating their honest to goodness opinion, beliefs, and being judged, rebuked, De-friended. Not in every situation, but there have been many sparks flying the past week. Tempers flare, emotions stir. And we forget that we are brothers and sisters in Christ. We forget that we are bearers of God's image. We forget that we are all sinners and fall short of God's glory.
Just because someone sins differently than you, does not mean that you can run at them with guns blazing. While it is easy to point the finger and call out our homosexual brothers and sisters, let's not. Leave the ultimate judgment up to God. Love on them. Show them Christ's love. Show them the love that you show to every one else. They are human just like you and me. And by being so harsh it may turn them, as well as countless others, off to the love of God. They may be physically here, but many will turn a blind eye, a deaf ear to you.
Yes, we have the freedom of speech. Yes, we can openly show our support upon the walls of our social media. But don't let worldly views cloud the lens of a view much greater then this, with rewards that last an eternity.
We call ourselves Christians, but some of our actions tell a different story. Here we are just hours away from Easter- one of the most pivotal moments in the Christian faith. Let us allow our old selves die with Christ-- our sins have already been nailed to the cross-- and let us rise anew with Christ!
"Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be
acceptable in your sight, O Lord, my rock and my redeemer." -Ps. 19:14
"Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid
arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s
servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to
teach, not resentful." 2 Timothy 2:23-24
"Sometimes when we do something we are unqualified to do, it
qualifies us."
Please note, "they" does not mean homosexuals -- it refers to sinners as a whole.
Showing posts with label salvation. Show all posts
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Friday, March 29, 2013
Tuesday, January 10, 2012
The Batte between Faith and Works
I have been finding answers to many questions that I have had for many years. I want to share them so I can kind of collect my thoughts, and also to spark conversation as well as get different insight. At this time, I am not claiming what I write to be the solid truth. All I am doing is writing down some findings so I can have them all in one place and I can continue to do research on them as well as share the journey I am on. I do not expect anyone to agree with me, but I do ask for respect. If you do not have any insightful, helpful, and honest answers or questions in relation to my posts, I ask that you not say anything at all. Please comment and whatnot, for I love to learn new things and I want to be challenged! Anything I deem worthy of deleting, will be deleted. This is a beautiful journey; my journey that God has me on. God Bless you as you continue to bless me in so many ways on my walk!
The past week, I have been reading "Born Fundamentalist, Born Again Catholic" by David B. Currie. One of the many things that I thoroughly love about this book, is that the author was born and raised "Fundamentalist" and takes the reader step by step through what brought about his conversion to Catholicism. While he has answered many of my questions, he also continues to leave me with more. I am going to post what he says, as well as do continual research to see if I can validate, or so to speak, disprove his statements. If anyone has any helpful links, books or words that can clear up my questions, again, I am very open to what anyone and everyone has to say. Please, though, just give me time to sort thru everything so I can make the best decision for myself and discern where God truly is calling me.
One thing that I have heard much about lately is that we are saved by faith alone. I have heard that many people have the understanding that Catholics believe that we are saved by works alone. In my reading, I have found both to be mistakenly untrue. To quote Currie, "... we are saved by grace ... none of us would have a chance at salvation but for the grace of God" (page 111). Furthermore, he quotes the Catechism of the Catholic Church, "Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification" (CCC 2010). "grace is any divine assistance given to persons in order to advance them toward their supernatural destiny of fellowship with God ... Grace transforms a person's nature" (Our Sunday Visitor's Catholic Encyclopedia). "Justification prepares a Christian to meet a holy God in eternity ... Catholics teach that justification starts at a moment in time but continues throughout a Christian's life. Justification is made operative in one's life by both faith and works" (Currie 112).
After reading this, I had questions. Questions that Currie is quick to state and answer as well. "... there emerge two questions that could be answered only by going to Scripture. First, does Scripture indicated anywhere that works are essential for justification? ... Secondly, does Scripture anywhere state that 'by faith alone' we are justified?" (p. 113).
"First, Scripture does clearly and emphatically teach that works are involved in the "by" of justification. The most obvious passage is in James ... where he says that a man is 'justified by what he does:'"
'14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[a]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[b] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead' (James 2:14-26).
"Neither James nor the Catholic Church claims justification comes by works alone. Justification is accomplished by faith coupled with works" (p 114).
Jesus' "ideal was that of a life of good works flowing outward from a vibrant inner faith. The parables of the wise and foolish builders (Mt 7:24-27), the two sons (Mt 21:28-32), the good Samaritan (Lk 10:25-37), and others all teach a unity of faith and works for salvation ... 'Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven'" (p. 115).
To Currie, it was evident that Jesus taught that justification, thus salvation, is a combination of both faith and works. But, they can only be made possible solely because of God's grace.
Just as I was beginning to wonder if Currie was ever going to touch on the second question he posed, he dove right into it. "Does Scripture anywhere state that 'by faith alone' we are justified? The long and the short of it is --no. These words are never, ever used in relation to justification anywhere by any of the New Testament authors." Currie says that some do indeed try to make this claim, so he proceeds to go into a short look at Paul's epistles.
"It is important to keep in mind that Paul uses the word 'works' in a very different way from either James or the Catholic Church. Generally, when Paul uses the word, he is using it to refer to Jewish obligational 'works of the law' (referenced Rom 4:9-15 and Rom 3:28) ... James, Jesus and the Catholic Church agree that works must be tied to faith for the faith to be effectual and that both the faith and the works are solely the result of God's grace" (p. 116-17).
He does quote Eph 2:8-10; "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith --and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God --not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works."
"Paul is not pitting works against faith ... The verse says that we are saved by grace; that even the faith we have is a gracious gift; and that the works we do are nothing to boast of because they too are a gracious gift --"God's workmanship" in us" (p 118).
Currie also states that the Reformers tampered with verse 8 to make it read "saved by faith alone." He claims that the word "alone" cannot be found anywhere in the Greek, nor in the context, nor is the idea conveyed anywhere is the Bible. This guy is also one who checks the validity of the Bible with the Bible --which as I continue with future posts it will clearly be seen.
About Titus 3:5 Currie says "Paul here is noting the motivation behind God's decision to provide for our salvation ... It was pure mercy that caused Him to pour out His grace on us ... Catholics do not believe that our works are innately valuable. The same could be said of our faith. If either is valuable to God, it is only because he graciously decided to make it so. They are meritorious only because by grace God has connected them to the work of Christ and the Cross. 'Grace ... ensures the supernatural quality of our acts and consequently their merit before God and before men' (CCC 2011). Even our ability to do works is a result of God's grace working through us. This is what Augustine meant when he said, 'All our good merits are wrought through grace, so that God, in crowning our merits, is crowing nothing but His gifts.' Our responsibility is to cooperate with God: 'Do not put out the Spirit's fire'" (I Th 5:19). (p. 118-19).
Furthermore, "We are saved by grace, justified by faith and works. Separate the faith from the works, and it dies. We can take no credit for our salvation, because both the faith and the works are a result of God's grace being operative in our lives. God has ordained that this is the method by which we merit salvation. He might have ordained a different way instead, but Scripture teaches us he did it this way. This emphasis on justification by faith and works makes a tremendous practical difference ... Entrance to heaven is preceded by a judgment: a judgment of what we have done in our lives. The criterion in every judgment scene in the New Testament is works: 'Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father' (Mt 7:21; see also Jn 5, Mt 23, Rev 22, and I Cor 3)" (p. 122).
"Because Catholic theology makes the will the predominant aspect of the soul, obedience through works takes on more importance. A Catholic youngster may not have all the right answers at the tip of his tongue, but he should have been taught to help someone in need. At the judgment Jesus will then say, 'I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me'" (Mt 25:40).
So, in essence, anyone who is striving to "live the Christian life" is already practicing that we are saved by faith and works. For, if we just believed in Christ and accepted in our hears, but did not try to live a life holy and pleasing to God, then that would be faith alone. We have the faith, but are not doing what God wills for us. Works do not mean that there is this huge rule book that we must do to get to heaven; it basically just means living out our lives and acting in accordance with the most perfect will that Our Father has for us!
** The italics in the quotes is NOT my own emphasis, but instead that added by the author David B. Currie.
The past week, I have been reading "Born Fundamentalist, Born Again Catholic" by David B. Currie. One of the many things that I thoroughly love about this book, is that the author was born and raised "Fundamentalist" and takes the reader step by step through what brought about his conversion to Catholicism. While he has answered many of my questions, he also continues to leave me with more. I am going to post what he says, as well as do continual research to see if I can validate, or so to speak, disprove his statements. If anyone has any helpful links, books or words that can clear up my questions, again, I am very open to what anyone and everyone has to say. Please, though, just give me time to sort thru everything so I can make the best decision for myself and discern where God truly is calling me.
One thing that I have heard much about lately is that we are saved by faith alone. I have heard that many people have the understanding that Catholics believe that we are saved by works alone. In my reading, I have found both to be mistakenly untrue. To quote Currie, "... we are saved by grace ... none of us would have a chance at salvation but for the grace of God" (page 111). Furthermore, he quotes the Catechism of the Catholic Church, "Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification" (CCC 2010). "grace is any divine assistance given to persons in order to advance them toward their supernatural destiny of fellowship with God ... Grace transforms a person's nature" (Our Sunday Visitor's Catholic Encyclopedia). "Justification prepares a Christian to meet a holy God in eternity ... Catholics teach that justification starts at a moment in time but continues throughout a Christian's life. Justification is made operative in one's life by both faith and works" (Currie 112).
After reading this, I had questions. Questions that Currie is quick to state and answer as well. "... there emerge two questions that could be answered only by going to Scripture. First, does Scripture indicated anywhere that works are essential for justification? ... Secondly, does Scripture anywhere state that 'by faith alone' we are justified?" (p. 113).
"First, Scripture does clearly and emphatically teach that works are involved in the "by" of justification. The most obvious passage is in James ... where he says that a man is 'justified by what he does:'"
'14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[a]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[b] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead' (James 2:14-26).
"Neither James nor the Catholic Church claims justification comes by works alone. Justification is accomplished by faith coupled with works" (p 114).
Jesus' "ideal was that of a life of good works flowing outward from a vibrant inner faith. The parables of the wise and foolish builders (Mt 7:24-27), the two sons (Mt 21:28-32), the good Samaritan (Lk 10:25-37), and others all teach a unity of faith and works for salvation ... 'Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven'" (p. 115).
To Currie, it was evident that Jesus taught that justification, thus salvation, is a combination of both faith and works. But, they can only be made possible solely because of God's grace.
Just as I was beginning to wonder if Currie was ever going to touch on the second question he posed, he dove right into it. "Does Scripture anywhere state that 'by faith alone' we are justified? The long and the short of it is --no. These words are never, ever used in relation to justification anywhere by any of the New Testament authors." Currie says that some do indeed try to make this claim, so he proceeds to go into a short look at Paul's epistles.
"It is important to keep in mind that Paul uses the word 'works' in a very different way from either James or the Catholic Church. Generally, when Paul uses the word, he is using it to refer to Jewish obligational 'works of the law' (referenced Rom 4:9-15 and Rom 3:28) ... James, Jesus and the Catholic Church agree that works must be tied to faith for the faith to be effectual and that both the faith and the works are solely the result of God's grace" (p. 116-17).
He does quote Eph 2:8-10; "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith --and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God --not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works."
"Paul is not pitting works against faith ... The verse says that we are saved by grace; that even the faith we have is a gracious gift; and that the works we do are nothing to boast of because they too are a gracious gift --"God's workmanship" in us" (p 118).
Currie also states that the Reformers tampered with verse 8 to make it read "saved by faith alone." He claims that the word "alone" cannot be found anywhere in the Greek, nor in the context, nor is the idea conveyed anywhere is the Bible. This guy is also one who checks the validity of the Bible with the Bible --which as I continue with future posts it will clearly be seen.
About Titus 3:5 Currie says "Paul here is noting the motivation behind God's decision to provide for our salvation ... It was pure mercy that caused Him to pour out His grace on us ... Catholics do not believe that our works are innately valuable. The same could be said of our faith. If either is valuable to God, it is only because he graciously decided to make it so. They are meritorious only because by grace God has connected them to the work of Christ and the Cross. 'Grace ... ensures the supernatural quality of our acts and consequently their merit before God and before men' (CCC 2011). Even our ability to do works is a result of God's grace working through us. This is what Augustine meant when he said, 'All our good merits are wrought through grace, so that God, in crowning our merits, is crowing nothing but His gifts.' Our responsibility is to cooperate with God: 'Do not put out the Spirit's fire'" (I Th 5:19). (p. 118-19).
Furthermore, "We are saved by grace, justified by faith and works. Separate the faith from the works, and it dies. We can take no credit for our salvation, because both the faith and the works are a result of God's grace being operative in our lives. God has ordained that this is the method by which we merit salvation. He might have ordained a different way instead, but Scripture teaches us he did it this way. This emphasis on justification by faith and works makes a tremendous practical difference ... Entrance to heaven is preceded by a judgment: a judgment of what we have done in our lives. The criterion in every judgment scene in the New Testament is works: 'Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father' (Mt 7:21; see also Jn 5, Mt 23, Rev 22, and I Cor 3)" (p. 122).
"Because Catholic theology makes the will the predominant aspect of the soul, obedience through works takes on more importance. A Catholic youngster may not have all the right answers at the tip of his tongue, but he should have been taught to help someone in need. At the judgment Jesus will then say, 'I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me'" (Mt 25:40).
So, in essence, anyone who is striving to "live the Christian life" is already practicing that we are saved by faith and works. For, if we just believed in Christ and accepted in our hears, but did not try to live a life holy and pleasing to God, then that would be faith alone. We have the faith, but are not doing what God wills for us. Works do not mean that there is this huge rule book that we must do to get to heaven; it basically just means living out our lives and acting in accordance with the most perfect will that Our Father has for us!
** The italics in the quotes is NOT my own emphasis, but instead that added by the author David B. Currie.
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